This week, on The Lead With Jake Tapper, a panel was assembled to discuss Paul Manafort's investigation into the Trump campaign's ties with Russian officials.
When it was Phil Mudd's turn to speak, he focused on the prevalence of a “deep state” within the Trump administration. Then, he said, “the government is going to kill this guy” in reference to Donald Trump.
Surprised by the comment, Tapper asked if Mudd was using a metaphor. “Obviously,” he claimed.
But the answer was the result of a leading question from Tapper, making Mudd's original intent somewhat unclear.
Watch the video below to decide for yourself whether Mudd meant it literally: