Bill Ayers Debates ‘Inequities of the Criminal Justice System’ with Dinesh D’Souza

Both Ayers and D’Souza Arrested in the Past

Ayers would suggest that our criminal justice system is a disaster, with the claim that it is racist and completely unfair and unbalanced against minorities. Of course, that is the typical claim from communists who ignore the fact that communist countries have political prisoners locked up for decades for “crimes against the state.” But they often chide the U.S. for racism in an effort to create conflict among classes and groups, as he did here.

The two political commentators were asked if they felt the criminal justice system “has become too political.” Ayers responded first.

“Our political justice system is a catastrophe. It’s a catastrophe,” he said. “And what was exposed in Ferguson, that the criminal justice system is kind of powered … by the kind of targeting of poor people. That’s true in Ferguson, that’s true in Chicago.”

“One of the things that I think is catastrophic in it, is that our political system is now for sale — it’s on the auction block,” Ayers added, referring to a campaign finance violation committed by D’Souza. “I think the criminal justice system is deeply corrupt and it’s corrupted by politics.”

D’Souza fired back with a response that prompted the crowd to erupt in applause.

“The inequity of our criminal justice system is on full display right on this podium right here,” he said. “So I gave $20,000 of my own money over the campaign finance limit. I got 8 months in overnight confinement. You bombed the Pentagon and tried to bomb all kinds of other things — how much time did you do in the slammer?”

Ayers, in fact, was involved in a number of bombings of public buildings which resulted in some loss of life. However, he served no time in jail and charges were dropped because the government failed to obtain the proper warrants for surveillance against the Weather Underground. In a more rigid system without the guarantees for citizens and limits on the criminal justice system, Ayers would have served many years for attempted murder, but he did not. He was protected by the criminal justice system that he now rails against.
D’Souza, on the other hand, spent eight months in prison. His crime? He gave a friend some money to contribute to a mutual friend’s political campaign. The problem is that D’Souza has been a committed critic of the Obama administration. The justice system, undoubtedly directed by the administration, decided to make an example of him.
Though his friend lost the election, there was zero harm done by his political contribution, though he admits it was improper and thoughtless on his part. It is hard to understand how Ayers could see the justice system as being corrupt and not working since D’Souza did pay a price for his infraction, as benign as it was. Somehow Ayers must have thought it warranted much greater punishment, even though he served no time for a much, much more serious offense.
So yes, Ayers is correct that there are serious problems with the justice system in the U.S., but it has little to do with the law-breakers like the Black Lives Matter demonstrators he refers to in the Ferguson incident, and much more to do with a corrupt justice department that would let a would-be murder like Ayers go free, while a peaceful and harmless person like D’Souza is incarcerated because he is perceived as an enemy of Barack Obama.
Bill Ayers will never pay for his crimes, but he will continue to bleat his nonsensical communist rantings. But when it comes to true justice, there is no question who won the debate when Ayers met D’Souza in a dispute of common sense.



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