Pope Francis made some sweeping and one might say presumptuous statements this past Sunday which have caused more traditional Catholics to wonder whether their church will survive the often off-the-cuff remarks of the pontiff.
Following the lead of Cardinal Reinhard Marx, who seemed to be testing the waters for a statement on LGBT relations with the church and beyond, the Pope made the following observations:
“I repeat what the Catechism of the Catholic Church says: that they must not be discriminated against, that they must be respected and accompanied pastorally,” Francis said at a press conference aboard the papal plane returning from Armenia.
“The Church must ask forgiveness for not behaving many times — when I say the Church, I mean Christians! The Church is holy, we are sinners!”
“I believe that the church not only should apologize to the person who is gay whom it has offended,” he added, “but has to apologize to the poor, to exploited women, to children exploited for labor; it has to ask forgiveness for having blessed many weapons.”
Francis first uttered that rhetorical question — Who am I to judge gay people? — in 2013, also during a news conference on the papal plane. His comments were hailed as a breakthrough for a church that has historically condemned homosexuality, often in harsh terms. Francis has not changed church doctrine that calls homosexual acts sinful, but he has shown a more merciful approach to people on the margins, including gays and lesbians.
A leading cardinal of the Catholic Church, one who is part of a council to help advise Pope Francis, preceded the pontiffs remarks at a different venue, saying that the church should apologize to gays and lesbians for the “scandalous and terrible treatment” inflicted on them for many years by the church and its members. Cardinal Reinhard Marx stated that “the history of homosexuals in our societies is very bad because we’ve done a lot to marginalize [them].”
It is worth wondering if the social changes in society and the drifting of membership has caused a new perspective in the church.
Cardinals comments question Church position on gays and lesbians, page 2:
Deborah Sandness
Its definitely do able, and not difficult at all when you trust Gods word….. I did it too.
Do we apologize for the tripling of STD since acceptance.
You are an idiot
What all the children the priest raped did they say anything no they did not they hide the priest to protect them
Pull out a concordance and then go to the Bible and read each scripture on judging and judgement and you will find that isn’t true. And in case you don’t have either….here’s just a few.
It is our business to judge.
We are not to be judgemental for condemnation, because only God has that power. We are to be judgemental as far as Gods word: right and wrong, making choices, associations, advising other sinners, etc.
NLT 1 Cor 6:10, Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment. ESV John 7:24, Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy. KJV Prov 31:9 etc. we are not to judge to condemn, but to judge right from wrong and not stay silent on these matters. The persons soul is at stake. Jesus paid it all, they don’t have to. Speak up, know the truth and speak it.
In Romans 1:32 it tells us that as believers if we accept the sins of others we will be judged the same as those committing the sin. I can see why Jesus himself said in Matthew 7:13-14 how difficult it’s going to for any believer to gain eternal life. In fact, Jesus said that only a few will reach heaven. If you go on to read on through Matthew 7:13-23, a lot of people that are considered saints will find out that Jesus will tell them that he never knew them and to depart from me those that work iniquity.
Psalm 1:1: “Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked.” Do good work, and be a Christian witness to all, but be selective when choosing your workplace friends. 1 Corinthians 15:33: “Bad company corrupts good character.” The people you spend your time with will influence your destiny.
The church must close up shop, it was nothing more than a created false religion, Mixed with a true religion
F**E POPE!!
He says blasphemous things.
Why ?
faggots are scum – Leviticus